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Episode 118: Where 73 churches formed and 2,400 were baptized in just the last year (Dennis Cady)
It may be said that God does God's mightiest work in the unlikeliest places.
Take South Sudan, a young nation where civil war has been the norm for generations. Conditions in that country are as poor as anywhere on earth, yet in just the last year 73 Church of Christ congregations formed and more than 2,400 South Sudanese were baptized into the kingdom of God.
What is going on there?
In this episode, Dennis Cady (Faith Village Church of Christ, Wichita Falls, Texas) of the Starfish Foundation, tells the story straight from South Sudan, where he has been ministering, preaching and traveling since 2011.
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Welcome to the Christian Chronicle Podcast. We are bringing you the story shaping Church of Christ congregations and members around the world. Here is our host, BT Irwin.
BT Irwin:Family and friends, neighbors and, most of all, strangers. Welcome to the Christian Chronicle Podcast. May what you are about to hear bless you and honor God. In my lifetime, I observed that some Christians who sojourn in the United States seem to infer that conditions in the culture must be just right for Christianity to flourish. For example, I remember hearing Christians link the decline of church membership to things like the end of mandatory Christian prayer in public schools, the over-sexualization of our culture and the quote-unquote wrong people holding government offices. Now, while there is a correlation between changes in culture and policy and the decline of church membership here in the United States over my lifetime, it is helpful for us to zoom out to a global point of view. After all, there are many more Christians living outside the United States than in it. Indeed, the latest data show that Christianity is exploding all over the world. The Church of Christ in the 21st century is global and it is thriving. Now, lest we think that that is happening because conditions are better or more conducive to Christianity in other parts of the world, we need to consider news like what we're bringing you today. That news comes to us from South Sudan, which happens to be the newest sovereign nation on earth, founded in 2011 when it declared its independence from Sudan.
BT Irwin:We don't have time to go into great detail about South Sudan's culture, history and people. It is a complex and long story, as is the story of any nation. What we will say here is that, since the middle of the 20th century, the people who live in South Sudan have endured some of the worst economic conditions and violence of any people on earth. Two civil wars convulsed the nation of Sudan through the second half of the 20th century, eventually leading to South Sudan's independence in 2011. The Christian Chronicle reported on the hope and optimism that many Christians in South Sudan felt when their country became independent, but less than two years later, in 2013, civil war broke out again, this time among ethnic and political rivals that wanted more control of the country and its resources. Seven more years of open war decimated South Sudan, killing 400,000 people and displacing 4 million in a nation of only 11 million. The political end of the civil war in 2020 did not end the violence, as various ethnic and militia factions continue to fight, laying waste to the country's economy and infrastructure.
BT Irwin:This is the setting for one of the most marvelous stories that the Christian Chronicle has reported over the last few months, for in a place where human beings are lucky to even survive, they're often harassed, hungry and homeless. The Church of Christ is thriving in a way that Americans wish it would in the United States. For example, last fall the Christian Chronicle reported that in just eight months, 37 new Church of Christ congregations formed for 837 newly baptized Christians in just one South Sudanese city. Does anyone else think that maybe we need Christians from South Sudan to come to the United States to teach us how to join God in growing the church, most of all since those of us here in the United States have so many things going for us and our brothers and sisters in South Sudan have so many things going against them, and yet they grow and thrive against everything that should stand in the way. It is a little hard to get a Christian in South Sudan on the podcast. We will do that someday, I promise, but this time we have the next best thing.
BT Irwin:Dennis Cady is a lifelong missionary who preached the good news of the kingdom of God in many places that other missionaries did not dare to go. He started his missionary work in Southeast Asia when he was just 20 years old and traveled to 20 nations, since the poverty Dennis saw in some parts of the world inspired him to start the nonprofit Starfish Foundation in 2007. Simply put, the Starfish Foundation helps those in need most of all by investing in education. In recent years, the Starfish Foundation has worked exclusively in Haiti and South Sudan. Dennis has had a front row seat to witness the miraculous work that God is doing in South Sudan. Dennis, thank you for coming to share your testimony today.
Dennis Cady:I appreciate the Chronicle giving us this opportunity.
BT Irwin:It's a pleasure to have you. So you've been working in South Sudan for a long time now and, we should note, you did not go there at a time when it was at peace and prospering. In fact, as long as you've been going to work in South Sudan, civil war, famine and violence have been raging in that country. Are you just the kind of guy who likes danger, or did something else move you to come alongside the people there?
Dennis Cady:I don't particularly like danger. Before we start with our questions, I'd like to insert that I have a co-worker. Chuck Dennis and I are equal co-workers I'm the mouthpiece today for that but Chuck and I are best friends. We both go to the Faith Village Church of Christ in Wichita Falls and from day one, we have looked for a work and found a work, and we are co-workers. So I want to be sure that Chuck is recognized as a big part of this.
Dennis Cady:This is not my work. First, it's God's work. Secondly, it's our work, but it's not my work. I cannot deny that it was not safe for us to go in the beginning. There is still an element of danger, but it's extremely low compared to what it was when we started in December of 2011.
Dennis Cady:I had several years of experience in Indonesia, chuck had experiences in Central America and I had the opportunity to turn the work in Indonesia over to other people who are continuing it in a good way. Chuck and I teamed up and we were looking for a new work. We had three criteria and we had explored some options. Finally, I called Eric at the Chronicle and I said we have three criteria. One is we want to start a new work. We want to pioneer. We don't want to build on somebody else's foundation. Second, we want to combine humanitarian work and evangelism or church planning. We think Matthew 25 is in the same Bible as Mark 16 and Matthew 28. And thirdly, we are not afraid to go where other people won't go because they say it's too dirty or too dangerous. Eric heard that he said you need to go to South Sudan. So that opened our. We barely knew where South Sudan was. We did a lot of research, we made a survey trip, but if we we give Eric the blame or the credit for our choice, yeah, that's our CEO, eric Trigestad.
BT Irwin:That's a good story. So you first went there in 2011, right, right after South Sudan became an independent nation.
Dennis Cady:We made a survey trip. We left the state December 27th 2011,. Five months after it became a country.
BT Irwin:Okay, and when did you? Following a 22-year?
Dennis Cady:civil war.
BT Irwin:That's right. That's right, and you established a school there. If I'm not mistaken, that opened not too long after. Could you tell us about that?
Dennis Cady:In our survey trip, we tried to just, first of all, determine if South Sudan was going to be our target and then, if it was, where in South Sudan, location-wise, and what approach we would take to start with, because the Church of Christ was unknown there. We ended up in the office of the governor of the largest state, in South John Lee State. I have never sat in the office of a governor in a state of America, but here I was, chuck and I were in the office of the governor and we told him we want to help. We have traveled your country, you have just finished war. We want to do something for your country. You need everything. You need bridges, you need water wells, you need medical clinics, you need schools. We cannot do everything. What would you like us to do?
Dennis Cady:And he said the war is over, but all our people know how to do after 22 years of fighting the muslims is kill, swing machetes and shoot guns wow we're rebuilding, but people are coming from other countries india and uganda because they have the skills to build and they're sending their wages and their money back out of the country. Our, our country, is benefiting from what they do, but we need a vocational school to train our people as we recover and rebuild. They made available six acres of land and that was the reason that we started with the vocational school, which continues today.
BT Irwin:That school is in Boer. Is that correct?
Dennis Cady:Yes, for the capital city of that largest state, zhongli? Yes.
BT Irwin:And it seems like about the time you were trying to get that school set up. Civil War broke out again around 2013 and actually affected the work you were trying to do at the time.
Dennis Cady:Knocked the wind out of us. We had built buildings. Chuck is a home builder, an architect. He designed the campus with the buildings, the sewer lines, Knocked the wind out of us. We had built buildings. Chuck is a home builder, an architect. He designed the campus with the buildings, the sewer lines. We contracted with a construction company actually living in Indonesia I'm sorry, living in South Sudan but they were Indian people and they built our campus. We had it ready to open. We had not moved furniture in yet, but we were going to open in February of 2014. In December of 2013, civil war broke out, mainly tribal. This had nothing to do with South Sudan and Sudan, or Christians and Muslims. This was tribal. Now we were in the middle of a civil war. We didn't know if we had a campus even left. They did damage but they did not do destruction. But that's delayed the opening of the boarding school a year.
BT Irwin:But you managed to get it open in 2014, 2015?
Dennis Cady:But you managed to get it open in 2014, 2015? We actually opened in. We opened, let's see 13, 14, after we opened in 15.
BT Irwin:Yeah, how is the school doing since then? How has that project come?
Dennis Cady:along.
Dennis Cady:It's doing fine. It is a boarding school. The governor's first request was teach our people a skill. But also we have tribes fighting against tribes. We will help you find students. That was not necessary but that was part of his offer. We will make available land and we will find students. We will recruit students from different tribes to come and make it a boarding school. So they must live together, they must eat together, they must play soccer together on the field between classes and they will learn that the people in other tribes are not all bad. This was the governor speaking. Well, the Civil War that broke out made that impossible. Two tribes would not come and sleep together in the same dormitory and so most of our students that is changing with time, but most of our students were from the Dinka tribe, d-i-n-k-a, and we have gradually had some students from minor tribes as well. But the school has always done very well. Now it's a boarding school. We charge a token tuition. Now it's a boarding school. We charge a token tuition that doesn't even pay for one week's meals, let alone five months meals.
Dennis Cady:And we had to get teachers from out of the country because South Sudanese didn't know how to do electrical work and use computers and those things. So those salaries were bigger salaries than we would have paid in the local market and we wanted Christian teachers. So we went out of the country and Christian teachers had those skills. So it has always been the financial elephant in the room. We have capacity for 150 students. We have had as many as 100. We now have 50. 150 students we have had as many as 100. We now have 50. We've had to limit that different times, not because of availability of students but because of money. But it's doing well. It's just not as successful as it could be if we could operate full steam.
BT Irwin:Yeah, does most of your funding come from the United States?
Dennis Cady:All of it.
BT Irwin:All of it comes from the United States. Okay, it sounds like a clear call for support right there to all of our listeners in the United States.
BT Irwin:You got it. One of the reasons you know how it's done. You've been doing this a long time, so one of the reasons we wanted you on the show is that we had this remarkable report from South Sudan that we published in the Christian Chronicle last fall. The report was that 37 congregations were established and something like 837 people were baptized in one city there in South Sudan, in one city there in South Sudan. So, from starting the school back and opening it up in 2015, you said there were no Church of Christ congregations in South Sudan when you first visited in 2011. It sounds like the gospel is spreading very quickly. Churches are forming, people are being baptized. Tell us what's happening there. Tell us what you see.
Dennis Cady:Your numbers were accurate. They are totally outdated. In 2022, we became aware of World English Institute students hundreds of miles to the north in the province of AWIL, next to the border with Sudan. Those students had learned the gospel through World English Institute, world Bible School, online. They wanted to be baptized. We sent four evangelists, or four preachers, four Christians Not all of them were technically evangelists up there and that trip they stayed about 10 days, baptized 13 people. That is where our primary focus is now is on fire for the spread of the gospel. In 2024, over 1,800 were baptized. In 2024, over 1,800 were baptized. 62 congregations were established. In the first two months of this year, 661 have been baptized in two months and 11 new churches established, and there'll be more next week.
BT Irwin:I was going to say we're recording this on March 3rd 2025, and you're saying that just in 2025,. The last two months, there have been 11 new congregations established and 661 baptisms.
Dennis Cady:Wow. Evangelists there go out on the weekend and conduct three-day seminars. They call them. It would be like a gospel meeting, except they're in the daytime because they don't have electricity. Friday, saturday, sunday and Sunday they baptize people. I guarantee you there will be two or three new churches this weekend and there will be more people baptized. We supported five evangelists during 2024. We were there in november of 24 and things were stacked up, villages asking our evangelists come and preach the gospel here, come and start a church of christ here. So we added five more evangelists. That's a total of 10.
Holly Linden:And it's just just.
Dennis Cady:I went to the mission when I was supported when I was 20. The church in York, Nebraska, had a program kind of like the AIM program at sunset, called Master's Apprentice Program, and as a single young guy between my sophomore and junior year in college, I've been at this a long time. I had my 21st birthday on the mission field. I have never seen anything even close to the results that are happening in mainly a wheel. It is not Sudan, but especially the wheel part. There are other parts of the country that are slow. That's why those of us who work in third and we even say fourth world countries find greater receptivity than we do in the. I don't want to get in trouble with anybody somewhere else, but find more receptivity than the people who preach the gospel in London, England, or Paris, France, or even Dallas, Texas.
BT Irwin:What do you think? Because you know the people in South Sudan, you've talked about their circumstances. Certainly the way you compared life for a person living in South Sudan with life for a person living in Wichita Falls, texas. What is it about the gospel? What about it? What about the gospel is coming across as such good news to our neighbors in South Sudan? What about it is so very appealing to them?
Dennis Cady:It's not like the people of South Sudan have never heard about, heard of the Bible. We appreciate those who have gone before us of other beliefs, of later ground groundwork, but we try to make this plain. It's simple, it doesn't need to be theological. The gospel is plain and it's simple. And these people, most of them, are illiterate and we use simple illustrations. We don't mind, in a polite way, disagreeing with what they've been taught. I have an illustration that I use. I just stumbled onto it.
Dennis Cady:In South Sudan, the predominant religion, christian religion there is Anglican Church or Episcopal. Sudan was a British colony until 1956, became independent, but the Church of England was the first Christian influence there during those colonial years. And they sprinkle for baptism and so I don't care what the Greek word baptizo means and all that, and they don't care either. And if I told them they wouldn't know if they could believe me or not. But I can show them verses where baptism is a burial and some people call it other things baptism.
Dennis Cady:So usually there's a goat walking around and I say you see that goat over there. How many legs does that goat have? Everybody answers four. I said all right, I'm going to tell you. I'm educated, I have college degrees. I came from America. I'm a smart person. I got a Bible in my hand and I'm going to tell you that that tail is now a leg. Now, I'm going to tell you that that tail is now a leg. Now I'm going to ask you again how many legs does that goat have?
Dennis Cady:Some say four, some say five, and they get an argument with each other and I let them fuss a little bit and finally they say the right answer. Well, it still just has four legs. I said are you saying that? When I told you the tail became a leg, I lied to you. They said you are a liar. I said that's exactly right and that's what your priests and your pastors have told you. And maybe they believe that lie, but they have told you wrong. And so we use simple things like that, and every time they see a goat after that they'll think of that illustration. That they'll think of that illustration, and so we try to adapt to the message to their level, if that's what I want to say to.
BT Irwin:so it's effective it seems like the jesus way so many of jesus's.
BT Irwin:Now everybody listening to this will never see a goat the same dennis. So thank you for that. Um, one of the reasons that the Christian Chronicle prioritizes news from Christians around the world is that we believe Christians have so much to learn from each other. So what lesson or message do you think God has for his people all over the world from the people in South Sudan? How do you imagine the Church of Christ in South Sudan is building up the entire body of Christ all over the world?
Dennis Cady:When we come back to the States after our trip. We communicate and that makes possible our work. We communicate multiple times daily with brethren in South Sudan and we see and we hear stories and we know people that when our listeners, when people in churches that we go to and report to hear these stories, they're inspired, they're motivated, Motivated. Maybe is a good way. I think it helps those who listen to when I tell them there are people that walk for hours barefooted through the African bush to come to worship and they sit on the ground or they sit on rough logs for longer than we go to church and Bible class and they don't watch the clock, and I give them other examples like that. It touches some of those people in our comfy pews and it should touch more, and so it provides a little more motivation. Maybe I should do more, Maybe.
BT Irwin:I should not take for granted the things I have easy for Americans like me to see the danger and hardship that Christians face in South Sudan and think that that is the biggest challenge to their Christianity. But I wonder if there are challenges and temptations for Christians there that we miss because we don't know the full story of life in South Sudan, and I'm thinking of the example of the violence in that country. You mentioned it yourself between 2013 and 2020. It continues today between ethnic factions and militias. It's been atrocious. It's been generational. You mentioned the Dinka, the Dinka people a few minutes ago. I know, I think it's. Is it the newer, the second largest?
Dennis Cady:ethnic group. Yes, that's the main two conflicting tribes.
BT Irwin:Got it. So these grudges go back generations and are almost passed down from generation to generation.
Dennis Cady:We call it Hatfields and McCoys.
BT Irwin:Hatfields and McCoys. I was thinking of Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland, or Israelis and Palestinians, so it's possible that you have people from these different factions joining the same body of Christ. How are Christians and how is the church dealing with overcoming some of these deep, deep, generational, almost hatred that people have for each other as they come into the body of Christ?
Dennis Cady:In most areas there is one tribe that's predominant. We work mostly with Dinka people, not by design, but that's just where we've been led and they have friends and relatives and they've got kinfolk in the next village over, been led and they have friends and relatives and they got kinfolk in the next village over. Most of our work is among the Dinka tribe, which is also the largest tribe in South Sudan. But there are people in other areas where it's a different tribe. So in those situations, in a church, in a village they don't have to deal with other tribes. But there are tribes, and it's more so now as people are more mobile as younger generations go off and get education.
Dennis Cady:There are two and three and four tribes, people from two or three or four tribes that are in the same congregation. There are congregations that use multiple languages. A sermon may be preached in one language, translated twice so that everybody can benefit from it. But they get along. There is no. I've never heard of any animosity, ill will, walking on eggshells, any of that internally in the church. Now I'd like to address one more thing, that kind of tied to that, which says something about the wonderful spirit of the South Sudanese people.
Dennis Cady:The Muslim war of 22 years was brutal, it was horrific. It was fought in what is now South Sudan. It wasn't fought in the north, it was fought in the south, which became South Sudan. Muslims were, Christians were brutal too, Some of it in self-defense. But Muslims raped and killed women, Muslims killed men. Muslims kidnapped boys and made them child soldiers. They did terrible things to those people and over and over I have picked up in conversations among Christian people generic Christian people in our New Testament, Christian brothers. They do not hate the Muslims. And I have asked several how can you not hate those people? And the answer has always been the same God tells me. If I don't forgive, I cannot be forgiven. I want to go to heaven and so I must forgive them. Wow, you think anybody in a church in the Bible Belt in America ought to hear that they got some people they don't hate or that they hate yeah yeah, but we have no problem.
Dennis Cady:We have no problem in the churches and in the villages where, uh, there are churches with the problems you're describing tribes not getting getting along. Now we choose not to work in some areas because there are still lingering problems in some areas. We'll go there when we can get to them. In the meantime, we've got people waiting for us that we don't have that problem to deal with.
BT Irwin:Well, here at the end, Dennis, and thank you for sharing what you just shared. That's very powerful and that's where the rubber meets the road right. Do you have maybe one or two favorite stories that you'd like to tell about our brothers and sisters in South Sudan, or what you've seen God doing in that country?
Dennis Cady:One of the first examples that comes to mind is tied to our vocational school. The vocational school has two standalone five-month terms a year with a month break between them. It is a vocational school. We teach at this. We've taught various vocations, but at this time we're teaching electrical computers and tailoring. But we also teach Bible, but the students do not come. Many non-Christians come and we baptize a good number of our students. A term was about two years ago. A term was ready to start. A man named John Lee Cure had not shown up. He had enrolled or registered by Internet came from quite a distance away starting to start the school. He wasn't there. Finally, he came 12 days late. He had walked 12 days in the African bush so he could attend a Bible school and also learn a skill. Wow, he has graduated. He's now an asset back in his congregation. He's so remote we will probably never go to that congregation.
Dennis Cady:Jacob O'Jack at one time was supported as an evangelist with us in a very remote area. Twice he fled for his life during the time he was assigned there because of tribal problems coming. That was in the 2013-2015 time period and a little bit after that that area still had violence for a while. Twice he fled for his life and both times he has. As soon as it was safe I might say sooner than it was safe he went back to his post and continued to preach the gospel. He said it's more important that these people hear the gospel than I remain safe Back up to a wheel. I said that we had five evangelists that we support. Last year, when we were there in November, we just saw such greater need so we added five more. Such greater need, so we added five more. One of the ones that we added without pay, without support, but with conviction that if I don't tell the gospel to these people they won't hear it. And he had a list. He had a written list of 12 villages asking him no support. Come and start a Church of Christ in our place and they walk. We now are able to provide each of those supported evangelists with a motorcycle. It's essential if the church is going to grow to its capacity. But before they got motorcycles they walked. But before they got motorcycles they walked, and they sometimes walked two or three days to preach the gospel.
Dennis Cady:I was an elder. Now I'm going to make the preachers mad at me. I was an elder, but I was an elder for 22 years in two different congregations. And these guys look at it different. They look for an opportunity. They got to feed their families, but they don't negotiate for fringe benefits. And these guys look at it different. They look for an opportunity. They've got to feed their families, but they don't negotiate for fringe benefits. At job interviews with elders, american preachers do.
BT Irwin:It's a whole different deal. Well, Dennis, it's obvious that God is at work in a powerful way among the people of South Sudan. So many new congregations forming. It's got to be mind-blowing for our American audience to hear what's happening there. How many people have been baptized since we started this interview, and you and the Starfish Foundation are coming alongside God and the people there to support them and join in with them. If our brothers and sisters listening to this right now and all other parts of the world want to also come alongside you and the Starfish Foundation and the churches in South Sudan, how might they do that?
Dennis Cady:Yes sir.
Dennis Cady:I say this. I hope this will come across in the way that I intend it. Chuck and I are not missionaries. We get no salary. We are the two biggest contributors financially to this work.
Dennis Cady:When we go to South Sudan, we pay our own way. When we go to report to a congregation, we buy the gas. When we send out a newsletter, we buy the stamps. But this works out grown. We need help.
Dennis Cady:The preachers the 10 preachers are telling us there can be between 3,000 and 4,000 baptisms this year and they baptize 660, something in two months. I'm not going to tell them I can't do that. It can't be done. But the more growth we have when we report, there's more churches, there's more seminars to be conducted, there's training sessions. All that takes more money because the church is growing. So I'm not ashamed to say we need dollars, we need contributions and we have a website, thestarfishfoundationnet. That's thestarfishfoundationnet and contributions can be found there if anybody has questions.
Dennis Cady:A lot of ways to make donations. We need prayers, we need words of encouragement. A lot of ways to make donations, but we need prayers, we need words of encouragement, but I'm unashamed to say we need to go to the maximum. What is the potential? Chuck and I are both 79. We know our time's limited, ongoing and nobody is after our job, so we have decided we need to push this as hard and as fast as we can in the time we have left, because no 30 year old guy out of a preacher school saying I'll go yeah so we need help.
BT Irwin:well, uh, one thing I've raised a lot of money in my life and one thing I've always said about fundraising is it is a ministry, because there are a lot of people who can't or won't go where you will go, but they can support the work you're doing with something that's fairly easy to do, which is write a check.
BT Irwin:So if people are listening to this right now and they want to contribute to the amazing work that God is doing in South Sudan, we'll put a link to the Starfish Foundation in the show notes. You can click on that and become a part of this really big thing that God is doing in South Sudan. Dennis Cady is a lifelong missionary and he leads the Starfish Foundation with Chuck Dennis the two Dennis's and they're working hard to love our neighbors in Haiti and South Sudan. Dennis has been a firsthand witness to God at work in mighty ways in those two countries. We'll put a link to the Starfish Foundation in the show notes, like I said, so you can come alongside your new brothers and sisters in Christ and your neighbors in South Sudan. Dennis, our prayers are with you as you head back to South Sudan very soon.
Dennis Cady:April 24th.
BT Irwin:Okay.
Dennis Cady:Tickets are in hand.
BT Irwin:All right, everybody will be praying for you, dennis.
Dennis Cady:Thank you, I thank you, I thank you and I thank Eric for putting us in touch with you, and we appreciate the exposure that this will give to work.
BT Irwin:Yes, sir, grace and peace to you and all of our brothers and sisters in South Sudan. We hope that something you heard in this episode encouraged, enlightened or enriched you in some way. If it did, thanks be to God and please pay it forward. Subscribe to the podcast, share it with a friend, recommend and review it wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. Your subscription, recommendation and review help us reach more people. Please send your comments, ideas and suggestions to podcast at christianchronicleorg. And don't forget our ministry to inform and inspire Christians and congregations around the world is a non-profit ministry that relies on your generosity. So if you like the show and you want to keep it going and make it even better, please make a tax-deductible gift to the Christian Chronicle at christianchronicleorg. Slash donate Until next time. May grace and peace be yours in abundance.
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